Breaking! Hungary and Poland withdraw from the veto on EU budget
The Hungarian and Polish governments have accepted the German presidency’s proposal to settle the veto on the EU budget, and now the proposal awaits Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte to accept the agreed framework, a Polish government source told Reuters. Meanwhile, Bloomberg reached a Hungarian government source, who also anonymously confirmed that an agreement had been reached.
According to Portfolio, Deutsche Welle shared the details of the German package offered in exchange for vetoes. Based on this, it is estimated that the Hungarian and Polish governments would make big concessions.
“We are preliminarily in agreement but there is some pressure … the aim is to have this done before the EU summit (on Thursday)”
– a government source requesting anonymity told Reuters. This pressure may indicate that the German presidency has already convened member states’ ambassadors in Brussels this afternoon for a conciliation on the EU budget. Now those involved in the case are waiting for the final confirmation in Brussels.
Bloomberg was informed by Polish Deputy Prime Minister Jaroslaw Gowin that an agreement had been reached, but he could not talk about its details. Portfolio also covered Gowin’s press conference this morning, in which he mentioned that “there is an agreement in the Warsaw-Berlin-Budapest triangle”, but it may also cover other European capitals. He also made it clear that he was very confident that an agreement would be reached.
Meanwhile, 444.hu reported that the news page of the Polish RMF radio presented the framework of the agreement. The point is that they do not resort to the rule of law mechanism, they adopt it by a qualified majority, but at the same time freeze its application. As has been the case for weeks, the Polish and Hungarian governments will have the opportunity to challenge the law in the European Court of Justice, and until there is a verdict, the mechanism will not be applied.
PM Orbán will certainly not have to face the withdrawal of EU funds before the next Hungarian parliamentary election, which is expected in the middle of 2022 at the earliest – suspects the newspaper.
According to the source, a detailed explanatory material will also be published on how and in what cases the rule of law mechanism can be used.
Meanwhile, the Polish domestic political situation also made the veto fragile. Also, Hungary could have lost at least € 4 billion net and Poland net € 65 billion if the recovery fund had really only been set up among the other 25 member states, in line with recent leaks.
Thus, the prospect of a significant loss of money also contributed to the eventual withdrawal of both the Polish and Hungarian governments’ vetoes.
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Source: www.portfolio.hu
Just in case there is any doubt, in political terms ‘a freeze’ is the sane meaning as ‘a stay of execution’. Reuters already reported 6 days ago that the Polish Deputy PM had told a press conference after a meeting with top EU Commission officials that Poland was willing to drop its veto (basically Poland needs the money and that was beginning to split its coalition government). With the Poles prepared to drop the veto that left Orbán very isolated. A fig leaf has been created to spare his blushes and no doubt he will claim victory but in fact all that has happened is that the day if reckoning has been postponed. The tail cannot wag the dog. The EU core members (the paymasters) will not allow it. A new mechanism will now be created to prevent minor states from blackmailing and threatening core members again in this fashion.
Just as expected, the moment mother Angela stepped in, and the moment rumor spread the other night that the EU will go ahead as planned, with or without the two Eastern beggars, thus by simply sharing the cake among 25 instead of 27, Goulash with ears put his pants down. ( His own ) money first, and money is all he cares for.
It is appalling the way the Netherlands behaves in this matter. Andreas Firewolf (from the Netherlands) writes: “The Netherlands is extremely aggressive against Poland and Hungary in the European Union. … The Dutch political system is completely rotten, down to the core.” See “Rule of law or Rule of favors” on the website andreasfirewolf.com
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Western Europeans are the most murderous, undemocratic and corrupt of all Europeans. Today I do not regard myself as European anymore because I do not want to be associated with anything that Western Europeans are associated with. Not to mention being “European” is today understood being only Western European, meaning it excludes Eastern or Central European culture and that means Europe is intollerant towards anything non-Western, it means it is backward in its mentality, mentality I do not want to associate with. I am simply Polish and Slavic at that and am very proud of it. The Western European scum tell the world that they give Poland money where in fact it is the other way around, it is Poland that supplies Western scum with through opening its whole market to Western investors, a gold mine. EU funds that Poland receives consist of Polish funds and the rest is a loan and that is it, no gifts. Whereas, the Western European firms take away twice and sometimes tripple in profits in comparison to what Poland receives from EU. That is the real picture. Poland is not a beggar, Poland suffered wars at the hands of Western Europeans, only narrowminded fuckwit from Western Europe would say something like that, and there are many small brains like that in Western Europe, especially among the Dutch and Germans.
@Western blah blah blah: Yawn. Heard it all before from you ex commie losers.
@Western Europe is primitive
If you don’t like the EU then it was better under the Soviet regime? Do you mean that your arrogant attitude is not welcome in Western Europe and that hurts you? Yes, the Eastern European countries are way beyond the Western countries and they proud of their bad manners, specially Hungary and Poland, they walk hand in hand. And if you don’t know more than 800,000 people are living in Britain who were born in Poland — the largest immigrant group in the UK after immigrants from India. Something most be better in the UK than in Poland. Also living in Germany must be better too: more than 783,000 Poles make up the second biggest foreign community in Germany.
The true tragedy is that there is so much intolerance between people, especially during crisis. Everyone is being played, divide & conquer, so the ruling elite in every country can profit even more in the decades to come. In the end everyone is only concerned with their own wallet.
I am a mixture of at least German, Hungarian, Slovak, Polish and Dutch blood and have family and friends in even more countries. The difference from east to west, north to south is very big, so one federal rule will never work. This is Europe and we can only be strong be accepting each other for what we are.
Our cultural differences are not a weakness but the essence of what makes us strong and distinctive from other large powerblocks in the world.
There is corruption everywhere same as there are honest people. My experience is that in the West people are more tent to ingore this due to their self righteous and hypocritical standpoints and worldview. It’s not their fault, they just can’t see beyond the veil. In the East people are maybe too stubborn because they are used to isolation, oppression, etc.
History teaches us a lot of things, but those who do not wish to learn will be condemned by repeating it.
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I have to agree on conspiracy and corruption has been tamed down in the European countries, but there’s still high deficit they requested during the Communist era; we’ve been struggling to pay our debts. Of what profit might be in other countries when people decide to immigrate are half lies from those who actually haven’t even paid off their homes only have been left with mortgage loans hanging over their heads stressed. in the past as they’re more likely do so now European countries seem to search for financial answers mostly from Westerns. In the meantime credit cards help people to accomplish their life goals prioritized their needs, only worry is who’s serious to pay it all back. Banks take high risks by providing this privilege to their customers. It’s scary. You loan your coat for a day and it gets stolen from the person you helped. Also I think it’s an important issue which country brings in to the EU what and how much. All nations should be able to ‘play friendly together’ and assist with what they’re able to. In return they each get their own fair share of economical HALLO?